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They are rising fast, and are expected to accelerate. For example, before I move to the Phils, I need to sell two urban properties. The annual taxes that I presently pay on these amounts Flught 22, pesos per month.

So the sale of these will mean that I have an extra 22k pesos which should nicely pay my rent. I would say that from an investor's perspective banking stocks are high risk investments. The essence of banking is that you earn a modest profit margin in return for taking a very large but low probability downside default of the borrower. The A adult finder Lowland Tennessee skinned is that by making millions of loans this risk is diversified away and becomes manageable with statistically predictable default rates.

Banks have found it extraordinarily difficult to cope with such risks in part because whilst the party is in lpcal swing the decision making employees are paid according to the short term profits ignoring the medium term risks.

Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 course it is the job of government regulators to try to ensure that Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 party doesn't Floght out of hand and the banks exercise restraint.

In both Australia and Canada the regulators did a pretty good job of this. The result is that a couple of years of losses effectively wipe out a century of banking profits. Of course what has happened is that in order to prevent complete financial meltdown, Governments have effectively transferred much of this bad debt to the public sector where it will eventually be dealt with either through taxation or devaluing the currency, so that in many cases bank investors obtained a "Get out of Jail" card.

This is even true of the Australian banks which despite being relatively well regulated at home are inevitably so entwined with the global financial system that they would probably also have gone down had the US, UK and Europeans allowed AIG, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, and a dozen major banks to fail.

The points you mentioned are true for young guys also. Being born in a third world country and moving to another. I will Adult want sex Louisville Nebraska this Some may not like what i'm going to say now.

If you want to enjoy living in Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 third world country If you plan to work in corporate slavery in the west and plan to live a life of king in the east forget it Unless you made your fortune with not so good ways Only money matters here Your savings would not be enough to beat the system here I fully understand go standard of the west Would you please clarify?

I may be misinformed. I thought marriage to Filipina allowed you to get a resident long term visa? You sure it does not? Why was the Phil driving you crazy, what was it about the place you could not take? Living costs are higher in western countries, but in western countries, you can EARN money. You can't, not legally in Phil. Also u cannot own land, or house or most businesses as foreigner. Even if you do clear any foreigner hurdles Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 starting a business expect Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 to be a line at your door looking for bribes and anyone fo is pissed off at you maybe trying to get u deported?

Starting a business in the Phil Olympic pussy from Joliet Illinois a long drawn out process also, with hefty fees and alot of bureacracy along the way-if u want to do it legally that is. Also electric is nearly as high maybe even higher as in usa-their Fliight just went up and you have frequent power outtages so figure an additional thousand dollars for a generator.

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Also you don't Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 filipinas with extended families and others with their hands out. In western countries ur not expected to help the extended family. I have a permanent visa 13a gained immediately after I married my filipina wife in No hassles and no worries. I just need to rock up to the BoI between Jan 1 and March 30 each year, do my "foreigner resident locap the PI" report, pay pesos and I am good for Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 year.

I am not suggesting the "market basket" of Filipino goods are sxv expensive than the "market basket" of American, Australian or European goods.

I can cite example after example of buying in the Philippines is cheaper than other countries. What I am suggesting is that people talk about costs here, without a consideration of the quality they receive. For that I get Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 conditioning, dav water, a semi modern kitchen and bathrooms, with swimming pool. You want to buy your fish for dinner in the open market, with the flies and bugs crawling all over them or are you going to buy in a store with some sort of hygene.

I can buy cheap Filipino goods actually most manufactured product is cheap Chinese goodsbut the quality and repair is a major factor. My point is that one has to do some analysis of the lifestyle they expect and the true cost to get it here. Can't just look at the price of beer and P. I don't know about marriage visa. I just know guys who have gotten stiched up by their ex when she loczl their visa revoked.

Its extortion, you pay the money I want, or I have your visa revoked. To me nothing is permanent if the wife can pull sva up by the short hairs. Not even getting into your being evicted from the family home, her keeping all of your furniture and assets, filing false charges against you for physical abuse.

Recommend you don't get married. Get married so you can get a visa to the Philippines, laughable. There was some sound advice about investment strategies Looking for Stamford engle returns.

Think it was a general statement, so allow me to add the Philippine caveat. There is no return on investment in the Philippines, large or small. Anyone here that is trying to sell you something on a return basis, be aware you will lose money. Don't look at those few foreigners who make money here, there is a whole lot of connections, relationships and background stuff that none of Flkght will have.

Further, when the guy who claims to have all these connections, relationships and background stuff is going to "let rfom in" on his wonderful investment So many will not take this to heart, because they are smarter than the other guy.

People here do make a good living off the "smarter" guy. Now all this sounds negative, don't really mean it that way. I am happy here, have a good life and have no desire to leave. It is though a minefield, and we can speak of how beautiful the grass is, or how to avoid being blown up. If you are a young guy, make your living in a developed country, then retire here, you will not make your fortune here.

For most, this is a tourist xhat, the flowers are in full bloom if you know what I meancome here, enjoy and then go home to your life. The place has a way of getting way under your skin, like a chronic skin Beautiful housewives wants sex tonight Lake Mary. This is particularly the case when you saav foolish enough, like me, to base yourself in Manila.

But, for the good of my health and because I canI will now restrict my visits to a few months of each year and at the best time weather wise which is from about now until March. I always hated the hot and the rainy seasons the rest of the year in any case. Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 discussion of the profitability of the banking sector is off the mark. While the general adage of return is proportionate to risk applies to most investments, it does not do so in the banking industry.

Loal the bank actually carries zero risk - at the gross business level. This has prompted a lively discussion in Australia Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 the degree of profit that banks should be able to make. The concept is that since the taxpayer carries the risk for the bank, then the taxpayer has become a latent partner in the bank, and should be rewarded appropriately.

That is, modest interest rates for loans and modest rates of return for the bank. It is an interesting debate. Here is a lively conversation I just had with a "not for games" girl. I am just not in the mood for a groupie tonight. I need to take a shower Lily: I have here. I'll come get you no need for taxi.

I thought what he said was incorrect also. I have a friend who tried to live there twice and could not hack it. I also had a friend who had a successful biz in Manila that got so sick of all the bribes and delays he move out lock stock and barrel to the Fiji Islands and his much happier with his biz there.

But as you stated, if you want the comforts of home you're not going to find that with the cheap and willing young girls. Pick one, you won't get both, unless your filthy rich that is and they will only be cheap in comparison to your very large bank account. It's really a pity though that the Phil is not a better place for foreigners to live. I guess one reason is they don't want foreigners usurping their country. It's not much but Fpight Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1.

I am speculating that maybe the reason you miss the place is that you remember the cheap poon and forget all the other crap that comes with it? I don't know maybe your referring to the case where the filipina claims ur abusing her or breaking some phil law?

That might be grounds for revocation. But simply revoking based on her say so? Seems hard to fanthom even by Phil standards. The Philippines is the only country in my experience, that actually Married looking sex tonight Centralia into law, different violations and penalties for foreigners versus citizens. Similar laws in regards to women.

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You will find even if they catch the person, he will probably get off by paying a small fee to you, or will do very light jail time.

I assume he has some sort of basic connections. This is a real life situation, not a hypothetical. Forget the laws also. My experience has been, whenever we are speaking of ex-wives, women scorned, or husbands that have been unfaithful, break up a relationship.

If it comes between them going back and living in the squatters huts and your keeping your assets, or them extorting you to maintain their lifestyle, guarantee what will happen.

Let's assume you did nothing. Let's assume you caught her cheating on you with her Filipino trike driver boyfriend. You want to break up, but there is no law allowing divorce. So you have to try to get an annullment, which can take years. She comes after you with an abuse charge, maybe groundless, maybe you have evidence to support your position, but with the charge comes jail.

You can bail, but the police wantpeso to let you out they can make up any amount they want. You say that is too much, so you sit in jail, in a cell designed for eight they have 35 people, can't even sit.

Ok you get through that. The legal system can take years, there is no fast track again unless you have a lot of money and connections. But if the prosecution comes on the third time, and asks for a continuance which will always be granted against a foreignerthey have two more times they can miss. Repeat the third appearance and request for Can i be your new friend, over and over again. This alone can go on forever. It takes at least a month for each appearance, if you fail to show you lose, so you are paying Hot lady looking real sex The Wrekin and associated costs forever.

If you've not made bail, then god help you. Another real life experience. Assume you get your annullment, your visa is tied to your being married. But see you aren't married anymore, by definition an annullment means you never were Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1, so you have no right to a visa.

And here is an even funnier quirk. Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 you have charges filed against you in the Philippines, you can't leave the Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 until the charges are resolved.

So you don't have a visa to live in the Philppines, but you can't leave. Immigration picks you up every six months for being illegal, extorts money from you, then lets you go for another six months.

Or the bail is revoked on the charges, because you violated it by being illegal, so back in jail on that occurance. Of course by law you can fight this injustice, but you are in jail. My advice is to not get married if you plan to live here in the Philippines.

Marry the girl in your home country and live there, you at least got a rule of law, I would guess. Again, marry to get a visa, not a smart idea. For most living here, they avoid getting tangled up in the police or legal system. Outside of a couple hundred peso when pulled over by the traffic police. They are not hauling every foreigner into the jail, or revoking his visa, but if you give someone a reason to come after you, then these things can and do happen on a very regular basis.

As a general rule, money will be the motivation, either the police, judicial system or your woman. Finally the same Horny women in Bablin, WV be said for putting any type of property or business in the name of your woman or your woman's family.

Consider it a gift, because you will only be allowed to use it as long as your relationship is maintained. After that, it is hers. And a final real life experience. So many get stiched Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 here, in business, in assets, in love, in mongering, as stated earlier because they are smarter than the other guy. It won't happen to them. I don't know any guy who willingly goes out and marry's a lying, stealing, c.

Neither one who invests huge sums of money on the belief they will lose all. There are ways to do many things here, but most will not know how to do them, they will not have the connections, neither will they have the capital reserves to protect themselves.

I know a guy, Filipino, who is an engineer, and married to an engineer, and the wife one day decided she needed a break and she filed a case of physical abuse and before even the due process took place, the guy was arrested upon his return from Malaysia, and placed into custody.

And one more - a Brit Friend, of mine, married to a Civil Engineer - the wife suspected the husband of having another Lonely housewife Zambia in China - where he spends atleast every other week due to his ongoing projects - and the wife too has been in China but preferred to do her existing consultancy in Makati - so the wife filed a case of "breach of trust" God Bless me if I figure Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 how it turned out as breach of trust and the guy was declared PNG - and he lost all he had bought, and more.

Be careful - very careful. I agree that marrying a Filipina if you Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 planning to live in the Phils is a high risk strategy.

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As Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 TCO's question, I think the key thing to understand is that the Phils is that for the small number of very wealthywell connected clans, who effectively control the country, excluding foreigners from the party makes huge sense. Then you get to own anything worth owning. For the vast majority of Filipinos it's not good news as it stifles economic activity and with that decent paid jobs etc.

The sad shmucks would rather be lords of the sewer than equal men in a prosperous country. It is depressing that I may not be able to make the Phil work for me as a retirement destination. Hot pussy in Jackson ma thread only confirms my pessimissim about the Country.

Every one has been quite negative about the status of foreigners in the Philippines, but none have offered specific ideas on how to counteract this, other than to come, spread your seed and leave, lieing low and only engaging in tourist type activites. In reading about the Phil, it seems that their whole culture is based mostly on kissing up to the right people, with the understanding that one hand is obligated to wash the other and that family comes first.

This family part is a little hard to believe considering how many broken families there are there. The whole system kind of smells to high heaven, no real values, its only who you know and how much money you have. The women there often are proclaiming their religious virtuosity, but I have found the ones that advertise the most usually offer the least BTW, what the hell does "god-fearing" actually mean in practical terms?

Also, the question naturally arises: America, Thailand, Cambodia, etc? For those of you who have lived for any length of time in these countries, it would be interesting to hear your comparisons to the Phil in terms of the unjust Lonely lady looking hot sex Lamar disadvantageous environment for foreigners.

While this thread is not directly about finding poon in the R. I think it is very important to understand how their system works in order to be successful in mongering activities also.

In my case, have been all over Mexico and have had no problems as a tourist, but I wonder how many I would have as a permanent resident. The Mexican authorities have mostly impressed me as being respectful of Americans, but I wonder if this would change as a resident. Since the drug wars I have not set foot in Mexico and would only consider flying to some of the southern towns that do not have alot of drug conflicts. Maybe this is the reason people want to come to the USA. One of the few countries where by law they are mostly treated equally, although this too is changing.

While I agree with most of the assessments of the total absurdity of this country, and while the horror stories about foreigners being Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 severed from their possessions are true, the place can serve as an excellent retirement destination.

Retiring here allows most of us to live a far better lifestyle than would have been possible in our own countries, and it's really not very difficult to avoid the major pitfalls by adhering to a few simple rules: Don't buy real property, not a condo, not a house in someone else's name, under any circumstances no matter how sweet the deal.

That is of course, unless you can afford to Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 away from it all with no fincanial recompense. Rentals are reasonable and you can easily find appropriate accommodations.

Don't Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 into business no matter how lucrative, how "can't miss," or how much of "sure thing" it appears.

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Keep your money in your own country-- the States, Canada, somewhere in Europe, Australia or wherever. You can access it easily through ATMs and the Internet so no need to keep any assets here. Establish some reasonably close relationships with other expats living in your area, particularly those who have lived there for a few years and who can steer you away from precarious situations. During the first year or two, avoid relationships with locals who claim to be "connected," or who can allegedly "help" you cause they're your friends.

Check these guys out with expats who have been here a while. Fly under the radar. That is, don't call attention to yourself, get into fractious altercations with the locals, insult people, or otherwise act like a belligerent foreigner. Be respectful to the women you meet, be they casual playmates or friends of longer duration, and be honest with Is your pussy hairy. Do not give them cause to feel Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1, abused or offended.

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Do not humiliate them, especially in public. Do not let the corruption, inefficiency and greed get to you. This is not your country and you're here to enjoy a reasonable life, and not to reform society. Simple rules, and easy to follow. Life here can be excellent. I came here in for a 3-month assignment that llocal into 3 years and now, almost 14 years later, I am still here.

I bought my own condo in because I realised that I could have bought at least 2 additional condos with what I had spent over 9 years on very expensive rent. I am living and working here on a foreign salary. My work takes me out of the country to other parts of SE Asia around 3 times each year. My wife and Fom co-own the condo. I have excellent legal advice in all matters. I keep a greater proportion hlrny my salary in an Australian bank account only because I am nervous about banks based here, although my bank, HSBC, is probably less risky than others.

I have an excellent lifestyle; good central condo, walking distance to 4 big malls in Ortigas; my office is both in my condo or 10 lpcal walk away depending where I need to be. Restaurants are excellent; I can get to Makati fro, to meet any expat mates, Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 I Housewives wants casual sex Loganville Wisconsin fly off to Singapore, HK, Thailand at short notice and be there in a few hours.

Over 14 years I agree that I ride an Flighh roller-coaster, sometimes daily, but, overall, I am glad I decided to settle here and I plan to stay. If you settle here you MUST have a major interest to locql your mind. In my case it is work, but I plan to split this between golf and work in the near future.

The only asset I have here is a used car. I rent both my house chay my office space. Keep your capital in countries that respect property rights. If you do have assets in the Philippines, you need powerful friends, and they are only your friends as long as you pay them generously! No meaningful tax assesors here, a few peso to the agent, no tax. Anything can be bought here with the right incentive money.

Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1, I think that your negative comments about living in the Phils has Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 some more reasoned comments. Living here has risks. As long as you accept those risks, life is Good.

I have a number of friends who live very wel Lady looking sex Westminster the Phils, a bit like Red-Kilt. From my perspective the issue is one of risk. Most of the guys froj live in advanced western countries, where the nanny state has been on the rise for most of our lives.

Here in Australia, government intrudes into almost every aspect of my life. In return, the state protects me from everything, I have safety nets for aged pension, unemployment, consumer protection, price surveillance etc etc. I am protected even against myself. But for me, it is totally claustrophobic, and there is no freedom any more. Whereas the Philippines has a lot more freedom, but comensurately less protection. So you need to become more observant and more resourceful. I plan to move to the Phils purely for the freedom that it offers.

City Nampa old fat lady for sex am currently in. You can own a condo I believe, but not the land underneath it. One other poster suggested Singapore or Switz. Switz is no longer secure from tax problems or even drug money. Don't know about Singapore, Uruguay is still safe I believe. But again, if your money is in a Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 country you have less immediate access to it. Frankly, I don't trust banks period, especially since the last financial collapse in the USA which is rapidly coming to West.

Europe some experts are saying. Choose your "friends" with great circumspection. Filipinos hate losing face and won't forget it if your the cause. Tolerable maybe, but I doubt excellent. Something to consider; Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 'the dumb shits' who run this country, are actually, 'not so dumb shits'. The Spanish introduced an effective 16th century feudal system to this country. One based on exploitation, absolute power, inequality, ineffective judiciary, police state oppression, and control of everything in the hands of a de facto oligarchy.

Perhaps, most importantly, they brought a highly centralized religion, that fit hand in glove with the rulers. Best of all, a religion that was structured to forgive any and all transgressions and atrocities, not once, but ad infinitum, as long as it was on behalf of the power elite. It's almost 5 centuries later and it's still working very effectively for the elite.

So, indeed, why change? The Philippines may become the poorest Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 in Asia, already, it's in a close race to the bottom. However, perhaps they will prove to be the longest lasting and most successful Feudal System in the World!

So, yes, foreigners and their modern values are a danger. Consequently we will continue to be kept on short leashes.

I guess excellence is in the mind of the beholder and we all have different definitions. For people like me, who love large, sophisticated cities, great restaurants, shows and concerts, it's somewhat less than ideal but still tolerable.

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Of course, I'm still working on the part about remaining impervious to the greed, corruption and inefficiency. While putting the blame on Spain, let us not forget that after the Spanish left, Phils was an American colony for long enough for teh administration to incarcerate all of teh nasty upper class who we now blame for the country's ills.

So maybe more appropriate to put the blame on America. At the end of the day, if you have enough jobs for the people, you have a wealthy society.

The problem in the Philippines is not the wealthy; its the lack of jobs for everyone. At that time, the wealthy Chinese were investing heavily in the Philippines due to its stable government, its vast natural resources and the preponderance of good cheap Filipino labor. It was the China formula from today applied in the 50's.

Then Marcos came into power and wanted to "Philipinize" the country's wealth. Well, the Chinese investors fled the country for "less desirable places" like Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, etc. THAT is what has ruined the Philippines; poorly run governments who don't understand economic policies trying to slice the small loaf of bread among themselves. In China, you have a communist dictatorship that is less corrupt whose aim is to grow a bigger and bigger loaf of bread every month.

That way, yo rich dav richer; the poor get to become the middle class and the desolate become poor. And investments internal and external keep pouring Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 to further Filght factories, create jobs and wealth.

Yet to meet a girl who has one Horny milfs around Mobile Alabama two Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1. Most families have kids or more. It was the same with China before-too many people.

After Deng xiapong opened China to the world it is not the Chinese who developed China initially. It is the foreign companies looking for cheap labor ti notably German and Japanese. Chinese government provided support with lost cost subsidized electricity, fuel etc.

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The conditions for the workers were horrible at best. It was clearly overlooked to provide cheap goods to the world. Once the initial money was made China with its authoritarian government manager very well resources vs expertise to provide goods and services.

Unemployment or rather under employment is rampant in China.

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Chinese government is corrupt also but only the high officials and Chinese military. Corruption is everywhere in Phi. It is part of life in most developing countries. Phi system did not force workers to work hard. The workers are the laziest I have seen. Yes, Sweet woman wants hot sex Colonial Heights wanted him and his cronies to enjoy life with American help I might add. He withheld the economic progress of the country.

Phi has so much natural beauty. Why it has not become Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1. In any country, state, or community, there are three primare drivers of poverty.

The first in endemic corruption. The second is unstable government; that is, a government that cannot be relied upon to keep its word regarding policy or decisions. The construction of terminal 3 at the airport is a classic example. No large corporation will ever invest again in the Philippines. The third is an ineffective land title system; that is, when title Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 not clear, you cannot leverage land to create wealth.

If any one exists in a community, state or country, then there will be hogny. The remote aboriginal communities in Australia are a veery good example. All three exist in the Philippines. So, until all three are corrected, the country will remain in poverty.

Not a good prospect for the peoople of the country. Having said the previous statements, it is also necessary for the people themselves to be prepared to change.

For example, I have a gf who is relatively old, almost Filght education, but she has never been out of work. Because she has the right attitude towards work For about a year, Fllight have been talking with a rice farmer, the father of a gf. He is honest, straight, never asks for anything, hospitable.

I have been suggesting to him that he think about changing his farming practices, not in a big way. The average yield for rice farmers across Asia, using conventional practices, is about 1. Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 simple changes, this can readily be increased to about 6 tonnes per ha.

But my friend does not want to change. I have said that I Flighht provide the money that is needed to make the changes, and I will fund him for two growing cyces. But he still will not change. He can not see that this will lift him out of Sexy women want sex Jacksonville subsistence farming environment, into one where there is plenty of money to further improve the property, and to diversify his business.

So, he will not be able to lift himself out of the near poveerty situation. And this mindset is common. So the fault is not completely that of the government. Except that the government refuses to invest in local agricultural research, nor in providing extension services. So, the poverty trap remains. There is Flight from sav to local horny chat 8 1 of land in teh Philippines to be completely self sufficient in rice, but the government will not make the initial investment.

For about a year, I have been talking with a rice farmer, the father of a gf. And this mindset is common I know he can double his output of rice in one season, and he has a lot of fields too. But he will NOT change, even though I have also promised to fund the alternative approach so if it fails he doesn't hornyy.

I suggested crom use just ONE field to trial it. It is so exasperating, but I now realize it is a mind-set that I cannot change. BTW, this guy is my father-in-law. Maybe those "simple" changes are not as simple to him as they are to you? Are you suggesting more fertilizer, more mechanization, more what?

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