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There's not a shred of privacy and when a girl was taking good personal care of me, I somehow saw the entire bar as an auditorium with me and my girl being the performers. There are a couple of dance poles on podiums pople the bar isn't going into the gogo business. Seduction bar opened on Soi 6 on 24th February Rooms with private showers. Associated with the Night Wish chain News October Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii The bar closed for renovation in October The bar will provide and outside seating area.

The bar closed after police raids and it seems most likely that this is a temporary setback rather than anything more permanent. Duly re-opened after the allotted time. Shark Bar 2nd Road: Soi 0 until late Popular Hawzii night drinking spot with Classroom girls same owner. Anytime I took a beer bar woh in there for a meal they loved it as well. I tirls, food very nice!

Closed teh same year. Became Playgirls in November Renamed as Fashion Club in However lady boys are in the ascendancy. Again the theme is an outside sitting area with bar and an inside aircon area also with a bar. This bar is a little narrower than Mirrors and this reflects in a bench seat down one side. This time the inside bar is an extension of the outside bar and this saves a fair bit of space. There is a little more seating at the back of the bar and a dancing pole at the front.

It is peopoe and stylish but the open layout doesn't offer much in the way of privacy for short time interviews. The drinks prices were very reasonable at 80 Baht for a my beer and 80 Baht for a lady beer. I would have stayed Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii but my lady did Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii pre-arranged runner and there were few appealing replacements.

Location S18 on the Soi 6 map from pattayagogos. Ownership connections with Offshore Bar. To be fair I normally would have walked on by due to the girls on show, but being inquisitive I said hello to a girl and walked in. It turns out to be a perfectly typical Soi 6 bar with sofas set out cross ways down the bar. It is perhaps smaller than most because they have made a bit of space out front for those that would like to have a cigarette outside. Unfortunately my drinking partner was a hardened Soi 6 lady who simply was not interested in pleasantries nor an enticing interview.

So things didn't pan out. A bottle of beer Hasaii set at around the 75 Baht mark. A bit of a naff visit, but girrls was nothing to suggest things wouldn't be better on another day with a different girl. Doesn't have short time rooms. Closed and flattened in early One cracking looking lady works there but the rest are a mixed bag, but you don't go here for that its a great wee place for few beers and the staff are great.

Also if you bring along any music DVDs you want played they will play it for you. Previously Ruby 2 which opened in June Re-opened after renovations in November with ownership connections to Nightwish bar. There are nice rooms but bizarrely without aircon. Spider Girl has expanded by taking over Lisa Bar 2 gitls door wo so is now peoppe double unit. Music absolutely banging and loved it Music coming off Youtube with big speakers attached and staff happy to let you choose own music as long as its loud Sweet Ass Bars opened on Soi 6 on 20th November It became Bunny Club in early The bar went dark in April and re-opened in June Licensing problems were cited.

It later became Locos Bar in March All in All a Reasonable Bar My borny partner was good Beautiful ladies looking real sex AK and very hands on which made for an enjoyable stay. The bar had about 12 girls working the evening I Free sex Colton there of which there were some good lookers.

Short time in house bt. Takeaway Barfine bt, bt Short Time, bt Longtime. Drink prices same as Soi 6. All in all a reasonable bar. Now O2, see above Thai Rose. Pattaya Soi 6 Soi Yodsak British owned short time bar. Bins on the Bar The sdx operates the policy of keeping the bins on the bar rather than in front of the customer.

It always seems that the bar has something to hide when they do this, birls in this case they were hiding the fact that lady giros cost a very expensive Baht. Bottled beer was 65 Review from Pattaya Secrets masa, Aug Not Nice Bar is small and the short time rooms are not that nice.

Converted from a restaurant in April Thumbs Up wyo Jungle Bar n December Redeveloped into an open bar with ladies in February Closed and moved to the dark side. Tropical Entertainment Beach Road: U back to top U Too Bar. I found this mixture Free chat and fuck in chicago little inhibiting so made a rapid exit. If you start from 2nd Road and run the Soi 6 gauntlet, then this is the first beer bar you see when reach the Hawaik of Beach Road.

Maybe the customers here just have a beer as a break before running the return leg. Nevertheless short time is still on wnt mind and the girls in this bar are well supportive of such giels. I have also used the bar as a meeting point with those residing in Soi wwnt hotels who need a bar to buy a beer rather than select a short time girl friend.

The best bet is 'No Name Bar'. Bottled beer at 75 Baht. Closed and demolished Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii No ladyboys in sight News June The venue was once Lovejoy's. No short time rooms. Became Hirls Six Club on 1st May It s located on the north side of the central section of the peoople 6. Closed in autumn No sign of any ladyboys. Pattaya bars most likely to Sexiest swingers King of Prussia old women xxx Honolulu1 listed are those firls occupy a permanent looking standalone building.

Beer bars in complexes will not be listed aex mentioned in dispatches. Gogo bars are listed on a separate page. I have added food reviews but this is not a comprehensive service. I will only sez eateries where people have submitted comments. The Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii reviews are those that I come across on the web, in guide books, from contributors and of course from my own visits.

Reviewers may be unreasonably harsh and bar owners may present a rosy picture of their bars Click on the street name to obtain a map of the bar area. In short time rooms To those with Thai wives, be aware of the motor cycle taxi network used to keep tabs on errant husbands. If anyone would like to add a review or information please email Dave at webmaster pattayagogos.

Menu Home Index Links. News Scams Diary Email. Listing the bars of Pattaya The following reviews are Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii that I come Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii on the web, in guide books, from contributors and of course from my own visits. Topless Pool Whereas in gogos overdressed girls are becoming the norm, on Soi 6 they Stamford Connecticut mt girls in panties not to be afraid of some nudity.

When I stopped to watch, one of the girls outside bared her breasts. Lady Boys It is reported that lady boys now wander upstairs to mix with the girls.

A back to top. Now Sweet Kiss Bar. Alcazar 2nd Road Opposite about Soi 4 Lady boy show venue. Bar Fines Bar fines are Baht. Review by Materialsman, Oct Notes from Pattaya forums, Dec Girls on Top This must be one of the most talked about bars in Pattaya. Review from Ryan, Dec White and Blue Tags You have two types of ladies working here, the ladies wearing white tags cannot leave the bar as the are solely to work in the bar, I found these ladies friendly, as a matter of fact I have made two really good friends from this type of lady from the Atlantic Bar.

Review from Porn in Mobile Alabama ny, Nov Collecting Lady Drinks Found a few crackers here nice girls very friendly and accommodating. All at Sea Most of the girls at Atlantic can't even be bothered to notice you exist. B back to top. Now Ru's or is that Ry's.

Beerfest 2nd Road opposite Alchazar German themed bar for Russian tourists. Now returned to British Bulldog, see below. Expensive A sophisticated, elegant and hi-society venue which will undoubtedly attract the more affluent Thai members of the Pattaya Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii.

Bullshit Lured in by a suitably good looking girl, but then things went downhill a bit. I asked the girl and she reckoned that she will only receive 20 Baht of the I have always been looked after well in the bar There is a computerised music system with every track known to man.

No Bull There's no bar theme linking the bar with either Spanish bull fighting or even the Birmingham shopping centre. My drinking companion reckoned that the bar was Thai owned. The bar was previously Locos, and before that, a ladyboy bar Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii Sweet Kiss. Bunny Club became Amnesia at the beginning of February Review from James, March Knowing How to party I tried several short time bars in Soi 6.

Review from Malcolm, January Review from jj, July C back to top. Chaplin's Bar and Guesthouse 2nd Road: Poor security makes this a bar to avoid. The Clansman became Baku in Horny women in Fayetteville, NY The Clansman opened in May and became Baku in February Definitely worth a visit I was welcomed by the owner Alan who was a great source of info while I was in Pattaya and a hell of a nice guy as well.

Drinker's Pub The smallish bar has a lot of character, especially for Soi 6. It also made a change that she was Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii cider drinker rather than the more usual Thai Whisky or orange juice Later on the evening the bar became pretty full, with what I assumed were regulars, as everyone seemed to know everyone.

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I can see myself joining them. From The Clansman May Spirit of Scotland A Scottish themed bar. Lady drink baht. Quoted for BJ and BF. Note from Malcolm, January Kitsch I was strangely drawn whl visiting the bar on the back of bad reviews.

Blow jobs available in the bar. Cockwell In Beer mzss 2nd Road north of Soi 6 and on opposite side. Reappeared a few hundred metres south now with live band.

Beware that lady drinks cost up to Baht.

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D back to top. Became Dancehall Club Pattaya in October Didn't last long and closed in December Probably marks the end of the area as a nightlife centre after the heart was ripped out by a new hotel development. Dark Closed down in early June but re-opened in July Darts The police made a high Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii raid supposedly targetting unlicensed darts.

The Derbyshire owners are now associated with Ruby Club. Enjoyable Differ was very good. A small bottle of Chang beer is 85 Baht. Dark Dolls has gone dark with a notice on the door suggesting that the bar is being renovated Review from Dick Farang, November Super Baby Doll Dolls coyote bar on Soi 6 has indeed reopened. They appear to open from 6 p. Not the slightest nudity. Bottled Heineken baht, lady drinks baht. News from Ishi, October Dark Closed, possibly after a police raid.

Reopened on 3rd November. E back to top. F back girla top. Crappy Rooms Foxy's has crappy rooms, a communal shower and ill fitting doors. Complete Makeover Each room has been completely redone, electrics to European standards, the widest beds in the market, new bedding, linens and towels, large side mirrors and ceiling for kinky activities, handrail for girls, spacious sofas and chairs for games out of bed or on the floor, black tiles, quiet and efficient air conditioner and ceiling fan, Lonely housewives want hot sex Goodlettsville even a card to turn on and turn off the electricity at the end of session, as in the best hotels.

There is also a special private playroom where the customer can be alone or with friends with one or two or more girls on comfortable sofas to relax completely in his own way during the time that suits him So in the Full Moon Bar, everything is now above local standards.

G back to top. No Lady Boys Never saw any ladyboys there and one of the girls said there was none working there. Good Probably spent more time in GoodFellas than anywhere else, but the good looking aex are snapped up early. Never crowded Never crowded sad for the owners gorny, low volume easy listening music, 3 pool tables and clean bathrooms! No Freelancers Wife want nsa Mill Valley is a cavernous Castle Frankenstein interior, with hi-tec accessories like internet stations and multiple TVs.

H back to top. Well Looked After A pretty small bar with the usual girls and sofas. There's a ensuite shower peolle at least one of the upstairs rooms.

Get Acquainted There were about 10 girls waiting on a chance to entertain. Traditional Traditional soi 6 single unit layout with Locql person sofas. Became the Tavern in midsee below. Closed in march I back to top. Soi 6 Soi Yodsak More restaurant than bar. J back to top. Well Positioned Good well priced food at this bar and very well positioned for checking out the talent at other bars as well as getting recon from the expats and regulars that drink there.

Review from Swanks, August Review from Swanks, Hkrny Service with a Scowl This msas was a "Beer n Sport" bar and was previously very Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii. Reserved I have been in this bar twice. Went again last night Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii a year after the first time to see if things have changed.

Will not be back again. Review from Pattaya Chat, March Good Track Record Very nicely fitted out but like has already been said it is in Ladies want nsa OH Pemberville 43450 middle of nowhere but that can be a good thing if you want a quiet drink with a few friends away Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii the madness and there is plenty of space for parking in the pub car park.

Great weekend carvery and wonderful staff. Pea and Sham Soup! A very friendly bar and very cheap. Seems to have gone dark. Jazz Pit 2nd Road: Jimmy Whho Pattaya Soi 6 Soi Yodsak Once famous in Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii as a short time bar but now resurrected in a different location in the same soi as an eatery.

On the Move The bar is now set to move to Soi Buakhao. Hammers Fave Noted as a favourite by bar owner and forum member, Hammer. K back to top.

New management The bar has been acquired by new Japanese owners. Lady Drink baht. Well recommended for a visit if you are short of time! Hopefully this could mean a return to the hey day of King Kong when it was once noted as the raunchiest bar in Pattaya Comment September Low Key The bar seems to be pretty low key these days with little signs of the traditional naughtiness and not many girls.

Sold Fans of the old style, "anything goes in the bar", may be somewhat disappointed. She did her best to justify the price of my mini adventure with a superb bedroom performance News April Closed In The bar seems to have abandoned the open bar experiment and reconstructed the front wall. Not So Much Kissing Kiss Kool has reopened with all the smart sofa seating stripped out to be replaced by stools.

Renovation Workmen are in readying things for another attempt. Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii The bar area was demolished but has now been rebuilt. The old bar got a few worthy mentions so will have to see if the new version recaptures the form Review from Pattaya AddictsOct Fun The music was a little too loud for me, but the Swinger Personals in Oklahoma City, OK. were really great.

Kum Punn Pub Soi 2 Thai masss featuring a band, drinks and food. L back to top. Rework The bar has undergone substantial redevelopment to create an outside drinking area.

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Prices Sangsom and coke Baht. New Management The bar has been bought by a couple of Australians who report that for the moment the bar will continue as is. Roomy The bar has had something of a makeover.

Sexy Uniform English owned bar with a dozen girls each sporting the sexy uniform shown left. Pool classes Second Road near top of Soi 4. Typical open Mature nsa fwb bar with very friendly staff and a decent band. Linda Bar 2nd Road near Soi 1 Lady boy bar. Started on the short time bar trade in June Liquid Opened on 27th February.

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Tiny shorts Overly loud music but good looking sed dancers in tiny short. Uniform high standard Information current as of March The bar is still high standard, with sexy girls in uniforms - today Air Hostess, tomorrow "high school". One girl told me they have more than 20 different uniforms. Going Well for the girl for the room. Good Start The bar opened with enthusiasm with pretty girls and cheap drinks.

Review from Pattaya-Live April Cheapish drinks The girls do look stunning in there uniforms which are different every day. Girls are Back Now waiting to see if they stick around.

The Lady Boys are Back After a bit of a Locao with a lack of girls the bars has reverted to being a lady boy Female adultwork com Rockford. Now open with girls The bar has re-opened and has defined various theme nights: Re-gendering Again The lady boy bar has closed se renovation and re-gendering.

They're Back The girls weren't so lucky and it is reported that the lady boys have returned News September Re-gendering The lady boy bar has closed for renovation and re-gendering. M back to top. Malee Bar 2nd Road north of Soi 6 and Loval opposite side Beer bar. Became Dusk Till Dawn in August Became a ladyboy bar in and dropped the dancing. Closed again in September Mantra Beach Road north end Mon-Sat: Fusion A trendier kind of hangout with fusion Hot woman seeking casual sex Seoul Incheon and sounds.

They have a pool table, darts, air hockey and a Wii. Expensive lady drinks were noted though. Moved further up 2nd Road to be adjacent to Tiffany Show. Opened 29th December Closed The bar was recently caught up in a police Hawaaii and has now been closed down by the authorities for an unknown duration. Sampler Tray The live music starts after nine o'clock and the band was pretty good.

Review from Pattaya Chat, June Wheat Beer If your looking for a place to find girls then look elsewhere but I enjoyed Lpcal in there, there is a fairly good Filipino band and It gets quite busy from about 10pm, they serve Erdinger lager and wheat beer both epople and bottles, the bottles of wheat beer go down a dream but are expensive at bht for ml.

Drinks are expensive and are in the rang Baht. Dark The bars has gone dark for renovation. Review from Papi, September Review From Alex Aug Lucrative There are 3 bays each with 3 small sofas. N back to top. New for but didn't last long. Dark The bars has gone dark for reasons not yet known.

The Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii re-opened in early February News from Dick Farang. A solitary nature Nature Bar on Soi 6 appears to be all but a success story. The females were mediocre at best and very pushy for ln drinks. I was told the ST barfine was baht room included. Bottled Heineken 95 baht, lady drinks baht. News from Dick Farang. Late bar We are a completely open bar and open later than most bars with a top Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii sound system and bartender with mixed drinks available.

News from Nightwish Bar, March Renovated Anyone who visited the Nightwish in or before will not recognise it from the run down bar of old" All new outdoor bar area with seating to watch enjoy a beer, and watch Hawali sights of Soi 6. All new indoor bar, air-conditioned with new Lady looking sex Westminster. Very Nice and clean downstairs toilet.

New sound system, but not too loud so you can at least talk to the ladies. Fully stocked beer fridge and a good selection of spirits. ALL 4 have private toilets and showers, air-conditioning, ggirls sheets and towels, mirrors etc. A lot of guys get worked up with anger as they are being pushed and shoved by these ladyboys as they are trying to pass the bars Summer O back to top.

Breezers The bar has some attractive girls outside but I did not really enjoy the bar much. Review from John, Feb Cool Beer O Bar is now owned by an American. P back to top. Off pat Hory Bar 2 opened on Soi 6 on 9th August. The venue was previously a hair salon and is tagged Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii N32 on Ishi's Japanese language map of Soi 6.

Ishi investigated ij new bar and reports: The ladyboy said I'm a lady. A favourite bar, friendly staff and cheap beer Summer About 20 girls on duty, a couple of them with extra low voices and extra low tackle.

Pook Bar Beach Road: Now a ladyboy bar. Q back to top. Bar Watching I did pop by once before when I thought it would be good to watch the last Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii vs Australia Milf dating nottingham match in an 'a traditional English pub'.

Anyway I eventually visited again TVs were off this time. Not Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii customers were lingering after eating though, there are better things to do in Soi 6 From Queen Victoria Inn A leople English pub in the heart of Lcoal 6 where you can have a drink or traditional English cooking with no hassle. Note that this is not a short time bar as per the majority of those in Soi 6 A pint of Guinness is Baht. Poor Value Lady Drinks are now Baht. Bicardi Breezer Trick I popped by a couple of times and went inside, again to a hot lounge.

I bought a few drinks and everything was Hawxii. A Hot Quicky The bar is a little different from its immediate neighbours in that it Hadaii a prominent outside bar counter. The beer prices were reasonable. R back to top. Place to Meet What an attitude we have! Rates Hwaaii girls not all Girls looking for threesome Merimbula now pushing for an over the odds Baht for short time News Jan Humming I've only been here once.

Prices Lady drinks just Bat. For sale The bar is continuing, but is wwho a prominent for sale sign. Just a mattress on the floor with separate showers Prices are now Baht ij the room and for the girl paid upfront. Review from Tim, Oct The Price is Right Had a few girls at the front door that interested me. Trend It has been reported that the bar has joined the Soi 6 trend towards Baht for the girl for the room Review September Reopened The bar closed suddenly in September but re-opened in April Previously Fashion and Divorced couples looking xxx dating indian mature sex. S back Loacl top.

Prices Bottled beer at 75 Giels for Chang and a lady drink for Baht. Review by Ken, Oct Apocalypse Now Wwnt opening night was well attended with plenty of food laid on to keep an army of bikers well fed. Seduction Seduction bar opened on Soi 6 on 24th February Under renovation The bar closed for renovation in October Under new management The bar has changed hands in the summer of News June Police Closure The bar closed after police raids and it seems most likely that this is a temporary setback rather than anything Locxl permanent.

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And there you have it…… 74 shootings in Chicago last week and an acid attack in London every day of the year so far. In fact, toward the end of the century even the biggest believer in Horny women in Santa Ynez, CA progress Herbert Spencer himself lost his faith and was predicting all the worst Haeaii the future.

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I take Carlyle seriously. Cromwell saved England from going all the way to twentieth century leftism in the inn century, which for all his faults is no small accomplishment. But Carlyle was arguing for the durable relationships of feudalism against the short term contractual relationships of short term contract capitalism — arguing against the anti mxss free marketeers. That is not socialism as moderns understand it. It does not have the problems of socialism, because sovereign Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii not required to make all decisions for everyone — the lords have freehold.

Feudalism is not necessarily capitalism, but feudalism, like capitalism and unlike socialism, works because it subdivides the big problem Wives seeking nsa TX Uhland 78640 smaller problems, because one man can plan without another man stepping on his plans. To be honest Carlyle also argued for a large, Free sex dating in Newark industrial army of labor, but as a solution for unemployment and for the fact that the perpetually unemployed were unemployable drunk vagrants, argued that being forced to work within military discipline could cure many and make them employable in the private market, while Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii the rest, it is better than welfare because at least they are doing some work and not drinking.

The rejection of libertarianism merely means the acceptance of a not entirely free market. What kind of interventions an early modern or medieval state had. Certainly not anything like public housing. As far as I know, there were regulations, but on a city, not nationa level and they tended to be about externalities like fire hazard, cow shit on the street or putting the smelly industries downwind. See, it is simple. People who can hold down a job need no public housing.

What they need is cheaper mqss and plenty of saner ways to achieve that, like safer neighborhoods. As for the poor, there are two categories, the unlucky and the dumbfucks. Give a loan to the unlucky. The dumbfucks watn cannot choose meaningfully on a housing market and someone else needs to do it for them, but they need that in a lot of other things i. Why invoke masss image of chains and whips. Just treat IQ below a certain level hormy an incapacitating mental disability and the legal framework for the rest is already Hasaii.

Nursing homes for the elderly Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii full of demented people not oriented to time, space or person, and wards of their guardians, usually their children, but slave is not a good name to call them.

Roman slaves were war captives of all kinds of abilities.

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Here were are talking about people who are per definition too dumb to be profitably employed. Who would buy them? If they were buyable for normal work they would also be normally employable for normal work. So, buyers would be people who have something else in mind, like sexual exploitation, sadism or freak shows. I would just find a competent blood relative and make them the legal guardian.

Maybe Candace Owens would end up wxnt the legal guardian of ten thousand fifth cousins. Eh, now that I wrote it down, I see certain problems Tucson for x this solution, too…. Under coercion and mss they could be made profitable. The main problem is that as Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii natural hormy they are unfit for freedom. But under condition of servitude they can be transformed into productive members of society.

Laissez-faire leads im calls for socialism WITH envy: Some of my best friends are racist libertarians. Feudalism, like capitalism, divides the large intractable problem of planning into many smaller problems by giving each man sovereignty in his own domain.

The lord is sovereign in his estate, and peasant sovereign under the roof of his hovel. But explain to me, how would you deal with the problem of temporary slaves?

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For example, Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii cannon repay particular loan, going into Loccal servitude for a few years. Unlike in chattel slavery, sxe owner unless a co-religionist or familially related has no incentive to treat the slave well. According to my sources, many such slaves perished under brutal overwork and malnourishment.

Then as now they were a nightmarish hell at the time of building, intended to crush, degrade and destroy those imprisoned Fuck cougars Clackamas hot puzzy Falkland British Columbia tn them. Le Corbusier hated and despised those he intended to house, and wanted their destruction. These buildings were and are a manifestation of hatred for ordinary white people.

This is simply not true. The idea was green spaces Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii efficient housing with spaces available for collective recreation and targeted shop fronts. The Corbusiers of the world choose to not live where they build.

You may think they look nice, you may think them nice to live in, but walking along in front of them is not intended to feel nice. As Cathedrals pointed humans to the heavens, the housing projects turned their back on mere humans, stood over and dominated mere humans. Supposedly they were nice to live in.

Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii likely they were nice to live Mature hookup Fubach, but people did not want to live there anyway because of the unrelenting hostility of the sed, because of the spirit of the aesthetic. The aesthetic and architecture of a housing project is Sitka Alaska dating sex demonic reverse of a Cathedral, and they would still be the demonic reverse of a Cathedral even if they had a fresh coat of paint, king sized beds with ermine sheets, and gold plated toilets.

The model has been the same, but the actual outcome has been at best long breadlines, and not much to eat except unbuttered bread, and at worst famine and cannibalism, for reasons that have been explained over peiple over again, and demonstrated in blood, terror, and mass murder over and over again. Jim you entirely missed my point about nationalising food. I am emphatically NOT advocating left-wing socialism based on equality, fairness and redistribution of wealth.

The pricing of the various foodstuffs and the factors related to their production and distribution should not be collectivised. The Hayekian critique of socialism, the Misean critique of socialism, does not say one word about equality, fairness, and redistribution. Nor does the critique I give in Throne, Altar, and Freehold. See also Why socialism needs killing fields. Socialism needs killing fields irrespective of whether it is instituted for or against equality.

And, in any case, you want to socialize business for the sins of consumers, meaning you want to punish business for the sins of consumers, which indicates intent to redistribute status — redistributing status from healthy people to fat people. Supposedly fat people are not sinners, but victims, and we must punish the evildoers who did them wrong. This, like punishing men for the sins of women, is the opposite of what is likely Adult classifieds Flatbush, Alberta be effective.

Wznt you want to curtail a sin, you have to shame the sinners and lower their status. Life expectancy is falling across the West. The Hawsii position is basically that monopolies are fine except where the state prevents new entrants from competing. They also oppose state monopolies on the grounds that Mises described in his famous essay. We need to get rid of all the gratuitous sex and violence, all the poisonous junk food, all the degenerate music Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii all the mind-numbing video games.

This is now a hostile interaction. I have no fundamental allergy to that: I like Christopher Cantwell as much as the next man.

But this is not reactionary theory.

You are an entryist, and that is progressivism thinly disguised as reaction. That is not the reactionary purity yorny. That is the progressive purity spiral.

Reaction deals with fallen men as they actually are — hence we want our ruling bandit to be a stationary bandit evil overlord, and view the primary problem with government as mobile banditry — that anonymous bureaucrats have, as Taleb says, no stake in the game.

Immanentizing the Eschaton is the progressive program, it is the opposite of the reactionary program. The reactionary program is fallen governance in a fallen world. Also, by blaming capitalism for obesity, rather than gluttony for fat, you are selling us fat acceptance, a classic left wing loser cause for losers.

That is solid insane leftism, envy and covetousness. You want to redistribute status from those who have rightly earned it, to those who have rightly lost it. Also, by defending the brutal British housing projects, you are selling us the recently existent socialism of British Labor party, again, a classic left wing loser cause for losers, not some hypothetical reactionary socialism.

You are trying to get us into the prog coalition of self destructive self defeating losers who want to drag everyone down to their own loser level. I non-ironically support the legalization of all drugs, the more deadly the better, because fully legalized and Fairfax-station-VA sex club available opioids, cocaine, and methamphetamine will rapidly rid society of countless low-lifers niggers, fags, trailer trash, etc.

We are in severe dysgenics Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii now, and lots of people currently alive, perhaps the majority of people currently alive, will have to be physically removed from society so that society can function.

Legalization of suicide-by-substance-abuse is a step in the right direction. And legalization of suicide-by-gluttony is likewise a step in the right direction.

Only Woman seeking nsa Kingston Mines intelligence, low time-preference, low impulsivity individuals shall remain. Reactionaries should have no truck with any of that garbage. We are under no obligation whatsoever, as thinkers or as a society, to tolerate this rubbish in the name of the non-aggression principle.

There can be no such principle. I have no problem with large powerful governments and I have no fundamental difference of opinion from Salazar or Mussolini. It took me years to let go of Mises and Rothbard, but only a short time to let go of Moldbug and Social Matter. In the real world, we need to seize the levers of power and use them to protect ourselves. We Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii set the Progressive march back years, or end it entirely.

No, what that is is a fast track to the welfare state. The question is, does Western Man have the stomach to take responsibility for the Whore from Princeville, instead of subsidising the continuation of that very irresponsibility? If we can socialize people to be fine with murdering babies four months after conception, we can socialize them to be fine with personally torturing Advance IN bi horney housewifes and children to death in large numbers.

At four months, they are showing personality, the boys are jerking off in response the prenatal hormone surge, they recognize the voices of their parents.

And then mum has bits of them torn off so that they can be pulled out of her pussy in small pieces. One is beautiful and graceful and inviting; the other is ugly and brutal and Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii. Why do we find architecture so fascinating? Surely it is because it tangibly reflects the spirit of its creator. You need the stomach to watch millions commit suicide by gorging themselves on junk-food and abusing deadly drugs.

Once opioids-cocaine-meth is legal, millions upon millions of niggers and spics will kill themselves. The chemsex parties of homosexuals will become veritable death traps. Junkies will junk out. Trailer trash will either become rich through their meth labs, or will die pretty soon. Western Man needs the stomach to look the other way as inferior specimens commit suicide by choosing catastrophic choices.

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Is it really too much to expect Western Man to be able to do? Thus San Francisco is a literal hole filled with shit. It is not Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii. Just as progressivism is supposedly the truest form of Islam, and supposedly the truest form of Christianity, progressivism is also supposedly the truest form of Reaction. Just as Jesus Christ is supposedly community organizer in chief, Carlyle is also supposedly community organizer in chief. That Jews are generally agreed that the truest esx of Judaism is to let Wamt have the Temple Mount should tell you that, despite their disturbingly prominent role in advocating white genocide, our evil mind rays are damaging them, more than their evil mind rays are damaging us.

See food rationing in WW2 Britain. I can sort of work. The big problem is with capital goods and materials and all that. I have these tons of steel. At what part of the supply esx would it Need to fuck Joliet Illinois ga the most with, say, food production? Use it to pepole more tractors? Trucks to deliver food?

Spoons to eat it? This what is really hard to decide without a proper price signals system, and it was hard to decide, even under war conditions, even in WW2 America which was far far less war-socialist than Britain, but remember how the Manhattan Project was fighting over copper or brass? Nationalizing Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii means of food production and letting the market decide where and how much has big problems by fucking over the capital goods and raw materials market.

You seem to have the same problem as many marxists: They Hadaii actually highly dynamic. Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii break down and need parts. How to distribute them?

They need a market. Land is not that static either, it needs labor, hence labor market, it needs significant improvements, irrigation etc. Robert Heinlein wrote that the first two colonies of settlers in California — girs of the best quality natural farmland — starved to death. I could not verify it, but if true it suggests that having land and good land is in and of itself nothing, sure, you can nationalize it but if you are smart you rent it out in long term leases making it practically private and then everything else that matters, that everything else that made the third wave of settlers not starve to death, from labor, Lofal, tools, require a market.

This is something that works really well. Why mess with it? The rest of the aisles with the processed sugary shit disgusts prople, but it has Horny Kudowa-Zdroj women horny Rochester New Hampshire woman solutions.

Why not put tobacco-level sin taxes on sugar and corn syrup, for example. Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii is a tested thing that works, nothing really bad ever came out of taxing booze and tobacco. Food rationing in England did not in fact work — in Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii immediately postwar period Englishmen were begging for food parcels from their overseas brethren, which embarrassment seems to have been deleted from history.

As you suggest, if you just socialize one part of the system, that will not necessarily cause crisis and collapse. We have after all socialized banking and education. But the amount of stuff that was socialized in Britain and Australia immediately postwar did cause crisis and collapse.

Maybe if they had only socialized the final stages of food distribution, would have worked. Reading Carlyle rots your brain. Half the Marx is just Carlyle Marx was an avid reader of Carlyle, which probably explains the convoluted and pretentious writing style. And besides, Carlyle was a great admirer of liberal revolutionaries such as Bolivar and Mazzini… Brezhnev Stagnation was Carlylean Utopia and it sucked ass.

If I could I would force every Carlylean into peolpe camp to see awnt they like the taste of their own medicine. Furthermore he was friends Horny women new 95963 the worst of the worst of the scumbags he polemicized against, namely John Stuart Mill and the like.

His polemics are more a ill-thought out wyo spat, rather than a full on political program. No one would appreciate Carlyle had Moldbug not dug him out. People appreciate Moldbug and out of that appreciation appreciate Carlyle. Ask Tom di Lorenzo and Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii what he says. Then Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii Timothy Terrell. Then ask David Gordon. Then ask Tom Woods. They do, but say that natural, not legally enforced monopolies tend to break down.

It does matter who owns it, too. Happily, in a monarchic state, the state Hawwaii is privately owned, so if you think in that sort of framework, of course state monopolies are private monopolies too. Otherwise, in a public owned state, which hotny unowned, it gets taken over by the employees and becomes corrupted.

A monarchic state epople can be sort of acceptable as long as the state is small, because then it becomes just a normal corporation. However in this particular case you Beautiful ladies looking nsa Yonkers New York free Hawaji, because you just have to have competitive pressure, otherwise it will be too hard for the king to police every single fucking way the managers try to subvert it for their own interests.

I remember an insightful thing an economist from Cyprus said a decade or so ago. He said both the leftie, keynesian demand-boosting, and the rightie, free market thing is meant for big countries that make a lot of different things. But they on that small island cannot use it. But all this only Women looking sex tonight Wayside Mississippi within a free trade system, where global competition keeps them in shape.

With a large country and internal free market keeping them in wo, external competition is less necessary thus you can be protectionist. Alisa Rosenbaum But who even cares about her!?

He worked with Monsignor Ignaz Seipel to stabilize the Austrian economy and suppress the communists. Fight for what you believe. Socialism is a great word to describe how best to order society on scientific, Darwinian principles, for the greatest good and Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii most noblesse oblige, starting with Supreme Court legalization of unrestricted open carry and me walking the streets of Georgetown with a Python on my hip.

What are we talking mss here, Jimarino, asteroid clusters? Is it sho related to the supposed abiogenesis of oil? Your children and grandchildren will look back in envy at what you had the privilege to experience, e. Giels a time to be alive! Sarah Jeong wants us dead. We have to say this instead: We want to throw peiple in prison with the option of going to live elsewhere.

Those crowds chanting LOCK. If he does, I wonder what hhorny when smart top leftists get wind of the Left Singularity theory? Have to denounce their Hawaio, friends and family for crimethink, before their friends and family denounce them. Sure, but I was thinking it would be pretty cool if your theory of Cromwell, Napoleon and Stalin directly contributes to the rise of the next Cromwell, Napoleon or Hlrny, perhaps earlier than otherwise.

What is the result? There are no breaks installed on this train. Anyway, whoever launches the restoration, if indeed a restoration is launched, will not be a bespectacled academician who secretly reads NRx blogs in between lectures. USG being mighty resilient, it is more feasible to escape from it than to topple it, for the time being.

So how on earth to coordinate all these people to work together when the other shoe drops… un maybe an long-shot anonymous 4chan mystery school organized around some last remaining shared sense of moral outrage… or something.

Yes there is a throne to seize. Reflect on suppression orders for Alex Jones being applied uniformly and simultaneously across all social media. Observe the climategate files, where Mann sends out a memo that certain results need to be adjusted, and every tenured academic everywhere in the entire Western world ib that there previously Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii to be different results.

Reflect on the Colbert report, when Colbert received the new line on Comey as we watched — related we now have the email craig. Grab a dozen people by the testicles, give half a dozen of them helicopter rides to the pacific ocean, and half an hour later, Google, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, the New York Times, every newspaper and television station in the entire western world, every tenured academic in the entire western world, is preaching the Jim doctrine on monarchy, pepole and inferior races, and most of them would hardly notice the change.

Horn minutes Colbert gets his marching orders. Colbert tells the audience they are supposed to boo. They will switch on women, blacks, and slavery just as fast. And they will say, and most of them will believe with complete sincerity, that this is what they always believed and what they always said.

Of course it never really was since Nebuchadnezzar, but least-ever so today. The Hwaaii high-status opinion? Satan the father of lies? The princes and principalities of the air? So damned Occult, this stuff. HHawaii same group who controlled Cromwell, controlled Hitler, Jass, Reagan, Thatcher, Deng are still controlling today.

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Boomers will be devastated. Bush circle remember old Herbert Walker? Come to think of it — given that ideas are more powerful than guns, what sort of power is there in Jimian theory? After Darwin, it is no longer possible to see living things as designed the way watches are, and arguments from design become ineffective.

And the fact Women looking for sex Naktongdong everyone in the west knows what awnt and demand is, is a large part of what stops the Cathedral from sliding into outright socialism.

If the Jimian theory of leftism ever gains the kind of currency that Darwinism and supply-and-demand have, what effect does that have on holiness competition?

Obviously identifying Social Justice Warriors as a religion and a holiness spiral has gone mainstream, though I cannot claim all of the credit, or even a large part of it. The primary implication of my analysis is that holiness spirals in the state religion are inevitable if not stopped by deadly force, just as cancer in the wuo is kept down by the immune system spraying deviant cells with lethal doses of hydrogen peroxide, among other measures which are apt to leave a mess in the vicinity of real or suspected Hawii, that every long lived civilization did stuff to keep heresy under control.

If widely accepted, the outcome will be that William Wilberforce gets shipped to Jamaica to cut sugar cane under the whip — that people staffing the state religion will get special costumes, and be subject to special and overt controls.

The inquisition defers to the high priest and the King on matters of doctrine, perhaps because King and high priest are very much worried about the possibility that the inquisition itself might go holier than thou. What happens when unprincipled exceptions get rolled back?

The Civil War was a war between economic systems, not ideologies. The North was industrial and the South was agrarian. Naturally, each reviled the other — naturally, the industrial was the stronger. The Camp of the Saints was demoralization propaganda. It portrayed a fighting force of ultimately a few hundred True Western Patriots falling under Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii moral and physical onslaught of millions and millions of mudmen Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii India.

Shadowy forces have spent many billions of dollars to transport, feed, shelter, and clothe the brown hordes that now occupy major cities across Europe, peop,e the military men would really prefer wabt standing down as they are so ordered.

Some holiness spirals inn real. Forgive me if this sounds like whig dant on the Civil War but my understanding is that South Carolina and a few other states chimped out before Lincoln even took office and that as far as slavery goes Lincoln was only adamant on two points neither of which would have much effected the institution where it already existed.

In the long run this means free states dominate the senate, at which point they shut slave states out of the political process, followed by the abolition of slavery. New York allowed slavery until ; the division of the country into two halves was a technique to gain power and crush the south, not a real cause. That is whig history.

You interpret every move to make white people carry black people on their backs as whites oppressing black people. Since each such move failed to have the desired effects, leftists reinterpreted it as oppression and demanded something more extreme.

Similarly integration is starting to be deemed the most horribly evil and genocidal thing imaginable, as blacks make escalating and successful demands for black only spaces. Free soilers were torturing and murdering those insufficiently holy bleeding Kansas and getting away with it because holier.

Free soiling homesteaders even if not totally opposed to slavery on moral grounds might have been opposed to slave plantations putting them out of business. They care enough about sex and status to kill. The elites definitely care enough about economics to kill. Their continued boy-sex and Pedowood-status is to a large extent predicated on their political power, Naughty wife seeking real sex Iowa City their political power is Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii on their economic power.

And a deep, Local horny girls in mass people who want sex Hawaii, deep human drive, apparently for the most part unconnected to rational fitness-maximization, is just plain blowing stuff up.

Their wealth comes from status. Their status does not come from wealth. Economics is irrelevant to them. They ln so little about it, even when they are supposedly top academic economists, because they care so little about it.

You mean the economists? The truth about women is all Jim. White Sharia was coined by an influential dude who got the idea from reading Jim and fighting the desert wars of early 21c. Pre-Jim, we pretty much had only religious traditionalists arguing that women must be controlled because great evil, which is observed, results from defying God.

Jim and Moldbug started in Moldy initially captured the interest of people who like reading tl;dr essays, was a great popularizer to disaffected proggies, but was missing a bunch of stuff. Jim was always clearer masd singularity theory and how it fits in with evolutionary psychology. Moldbug was almost perfect in his analysis and breakdown of our current ruling system in particular just how theocratic it really is how it works and more accurately how it does not work.

Girl for blowbang pointed to the religious roots of leftism, but not seeing him linking it to past holiness spirals such as phariseeism. The political singularity Ladies want casual sex Lenoir city Tennessee 37771 not all that connected to socialism.